Published: 04/09/2014 10:56:27 AM
Representative Thomas Massie, video taken from his YouTube Channel - APRIL 2, 2014.
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A possible federal raid on a gun store in San Diego was stalled after a lawsuit was filed, a lawyer said Wednesday.
View FOX 5 Broadcast >>The ATF did execute a search warrant against all of our buildings today. None of our employees have been detained or arrested. We will be open for business tomorrow. We will be back up and shipping out orders on Monday. We wholeheartedly believe that they are WRONG in their actions and we will be relentlessly pursuing remedy through the courts. Quote from an ATF Agent during the raid "searching is fun! paper work sucks." Maybe the ATF thinks the Constitution is part of that paper work that sucks... Despicable behavior on their part. This is just the beginning! Thank you all for the support! -Dimitrios Karras, CEO
KSWB: Despite an injunction approved by a judge, federal agents searched and seized items from several gun store locations in San Diego County.
SAN DIEGO � With a search warrant in hand, federal agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives confiscated computers, customer lists and the questionable polymer 80 percent lower receivers from four Ares Armor store locations throughout San Diego County over the weekend.
�There were women and children inside our retail establishment when the (ATF) agents came in with guns drawn,� said Ares Armor Executive Officer Dimitrios Karras. �They came into our manufacturing facility with their guns up like they were invading Iraq.�
The raid happened three days after Ares owner was granted a temporary restraining by a judge to stop ATF agents from searching their stores.
The ATF confirmed they were investigating the stores for federal firearm violations.
The case stems from the sale of what is called an 80% lower receiver, which gun enthusiast use to build their own rifles and guns.
Building a rifle with specific versions of the 80 percent receivers is legal. The polymer lower receiver appears to be manufactured differently with two parts, making them a firearm and illegal sell, according to the ATF.
�We did ask the court to clarify if these things were firearms or not,� said Karras. �We did ask for protection as this gets resolved within the court system.�
Karras said they had their polymer lower receivers locked in a closet ready to turn over to the ATF since Wednesday. He was more concerned about the federal agents taking lists of his customers� information.
�If anybody is a criminal organization that should be investigated, I think they should look in the mirror. We gave them a black eye publicly,� Karras said. �They tried to do an underhanded deal with us. They said, �Hey hush, hush. Keep it secret and nobody�s going to know that we took the customer list from you. Nobody�s going to know we took this from you.��
The investigation has some customers nervous about their right to bear arms.
�I�m on that list, and I�m waiting for the knock on the door to tell me they are here to remove my second amendment rights,� one customer told Fox 5.
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Every American should be outraged over the events transpiring between Ares Armor and the BATFE; even the anti-gun folks! NO LEGAL ADVICE is intended in any way by the content of this video. Consult your local laws and local licensed attorney for any legal matters.
The owner of a California gun parts store says he plans to take legal action after federal agents raided his business, confiscating computers, customer lists and 80 percent lower receivers as part of an investigation into alleged federal firearms violations.
Dimitrios Karras, owner of Ares Armor in National City, told Fox5SanDiego.com the raid by Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents took place just days after the company obtained a temporary restraining order against the agency.
�There were women and children inside our retail establishment when the (ATF) agents came in with guns drawn,� Karras told the station. "They came into our firearms manufacturing facility saying, �Arms up!� like they were invading Iraq.�
The ATF says their investigation into Ares Armor stems from the sale of a new plastic version of the 80 percent lower receiver, which can be used to build AR-15 rifles, according to the report.
Although certain receivers may be sold and purchased legally, the agency claims the company was selling receivers manufactured differently with two parts, making them illegal to sell.
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OCEANSIDE, Calif. � The battle between an Oceanside gun parts store and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives continued to escalate Wednesday, as the store owner told Fox5 he will be reaching out to a local congressman.
Dimitrios Karras, owner of Ares Armor, said he will ask Rep. Darrell Issa (R-San Diego) for help after his shop was raided by armed ATF agents over the weekend. They confiscated computers, customer lists and the questionable polymer 80 percent lower receivers.
Karras claims the ATF agents are acting illegally.
�These people are overstepping their boundaries. This is a rogue agency that has pretty much gone wild,� Karras said. �I�m going to be going over to local congressman�s office in an attempt to garner some support.�
Karras said the fight has nothing to do with firearms. The issue was the sale of a newly manufactured product called a polymer 80 percent lower receiver. The part has been approved for use by gun enthusiasts to build their own guns, without a serial number, for years, according to Karras.
�This is across party lines and more reaching,� said Karras. �It�s not about gun control � it�s about control.�
A new version of the lower receiver is plastic and is somewhat like paint by numbers. According to the ATF, the part that the owner must drill into to make it a firearm appears to be a separate piece and would makes it illegal to sell.
Gun enthusiast Mark Halcon owns American Shooting Center and is considered a second amendment expert.
�Maybe they were just too readily convertible?� said Halcon, who explained it�s a chicken or the egg scenario with not a lot of guidance. �There is no process for approving an 80 percent lower. There�s no regulation.�
Halcon said he was not surprised to find out the agents took Karras� customer list. It�s not uncommon for the feds to ask for the list since the controversial parts eventually become firearms without serial numbers and are not registered.
�If you�re doing everything right and its legal, you got nothing to worry about,� he said. �If you�re buying a dozen of them, building a dozen of them and selling 10 of them to your friends � you got a problem.�
The search warrant provides little information about the raid, and neither the ATF nor the U.S. Attorney�s Office will talk about the case.
However the ensuing battle turns out, Halcon said one thing is certain, �We are going to see changes in law regarding 80 precent receivers and the manufacturing of it. I think this is going to be a long and expensive litigation for both parties.�
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FOX 5: Congressman Darrell Issa is in town and speaks to a local gun store owner who's reached out for help with the recent raid by the ATF as well as his thoughts on the situation in Crimea.
SAN DIEGO � Two San Diego congressmen want to know why federal agents raided an Oceanside gun parts store last weekend and what the government plans to do with the computers and customer lists it confiscated.
Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Alpine) sent a letter to the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Friday asking for information about the raid on Ares Armor last Saturday. The store owner had been granted an injunction by a judge to prevent the raid, but BATFE agents served a search warrant on the business anyway.
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Fox News interview with Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) House Armed Services CMTE.
GRAA, PTMC SoCal and Ares Armor. This is a PEACEFUL PROTEST. Promoting violence of ANY kind will NOT be tolerated.
Representative Thomas Massie, video taken from his YouTube Channel - APRIL 2, 2014.